[skuraitsang]

If anyone has ever taken a sociology class, they speak a lot about wage-gap and how unfair the differences are between gendered jobs are. But no one ever mentions porn. I know for both gender's it's difficult to make it in the porn industry, but even harder for males to. Porn no doubt is marketed mostly towards men, so that would mean most of the jobs and the barriers to entry are catered to women.

Also we can look at the creation and blow-up of onlyfans. Between the two genders I think majorly amateur females are the only ones making bank from this sort of "occupation," but how is it that people still talk about gendered roles/occupations but ignore these facts of these modern industries that do cater to females as well.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

[BaseAppetites]

Been a while since I left University (and didn't do sociology), but it seems this is linked to the whole stigma surrounding sex. If everyone treats porn like some naughty taboo thing, then naturally no one would want to discuss what that means for gender inequality within the industry.

I do think male cam models (camboys?) do exist, but they're probably on different platforms, not OF. OF is still very much mainstream, male-hetero focused. Of course, there's the sites/content that serve the LGBTQ+ tastes, but all are sort of hidden because, again, public assumption of porn consumers are straight males (patriarchal society and all that). Even now, if you watch shoots from amateur studios like castingcouch and such, when they interview the girls, what they watch is scripted for males.

I'll say this is one of those unwinnable fights, at least in the short run - you might be able to have some discussion about it, but to get it to the point of open, normalized discussion, you need to crack "sex=taboo", "good girls don't watch porn", "males bodies are not sexualized", and "non-hetero desires don't exist". They're all related, but any one by itself is pretty much a generation-defining change.

[suntnebun]

no ................

[itsmylifehindu]

One does it better

[MirrorCold594]

I think balance exists. In this field it swings one way, in other fields it swings the other way.

[DaveUK83]

I was under the impression that females got paid much better in porn then their male counterparts. Don't men just get paid per orgasm?

[Nunyo Beezwax]

men aren't valued for their looks and sexuality, they're valued for their ability to build, produce, and command respect.

no one wants to see dudes twerking just like no one wants to watch chics playing basketball.

[chunkylover53]

This isn't brought up because gender equality as a concept only ever goes in one direction. It is inherently unequal. It's like why women in STEM "problem" intentionally excludes the medical field (which is female dominated) -- it would throw the numbers off, solve the "problem," and put women out of work who have gotten a job complaining about how employment is unfair to women. Higher ed is overwhelmingly female, which is one of (many) things wrong with it. 

Also the gender pay gap in the fashion industry is heavily skewed toward women. Bring that up instead if you're scared.

[kailar.drevion]

Gendered jobs naturally stem from physical requirements or high risks involved (firefighting, oil drilling) but can be artificially created due to social norms (teaching, nursing) and both which may create a self fulfilling prophecy when a field is dominated by one gender and thus less likely to attract the opposite gender and some may even proactively prevent others from joining.

Wage gap would be two exact job descriptions but difference in pay. In porn, I would argue that male and female actors have two different jobs thus the difference in pay. Further, the demand for female pornstars are higher than male pornstars as well.

The barriers to entry would be lower for women due to high demand for fresh content coupled with a  wide range of standards for beauty. For men, the standards are higher due to rarity people possessing multiple traits in one package, such as being able to maintain an erection for five hour shoots.

Women generally would be making more money than men in porn depending on scale, in your example you're referring to an individual filming session, but be aware that that income inequality still exists. A large amount of women do not make a lot of money if any at all, there are top performers that do which exist in both male and female side that make the bulk of the money spent on porn. With Onlyfans, at least the actual content producer is receiving most of the profits directly. Do you think mainstream porn producers are generally male or female?